"Jef was incredibly enthusiastic about what he saw at Xerox PARC," said Dave Burstein, who is working on a film about Raskin's life. He worked to bring it to the attention of Apple executives. ![]() Raskin, who worked as a computer science professor before joining Apple, was well aware of the research being done in computer interfaces at Xerox's Palo Alto Research Center. "His role on the Macintosh was the initiator of the project, so it wouldn't be here if it weren't for him," said Andy Hertzfeld, an early Mac team member. A small team, under his command, was put together at Apple to pursue his concept that would eventually become the Macintosh. In 1979, Raskin had a different idea: A computer that's priced affordably, targeted at consumers and extremely easy to use. At the time, computers were primarily text-based and users had to remember a series of arcane commands to perform the simplest tasks. It seems to be a professional hazard.Raskin joined Apple in 1978 - as its 31st employee - to start the young company's publications department. Of course, Alan Kay has one, and Donald Knuth has one, so You have to be pretty crazy to have a pipe organ at Musical section there's a picture of a pipe Stone, an oboist, and I don't know how many times we've all played To hire at Apple, was a brilliant player on the cornetto,Ī Renaissance instrument, and on recorders. Many times, and it was the musical Stanford connection as muchĪs the other that was strong. Who's sung with Chanticleer, and who I've performed with many For example, there was my very good friend Doug Wyatt, I had a lot of musical friends over at PARC, and one of theīigger links was not as much CS- although that was important-īut musical. She was at both the AI Lab and PARC, so there Me about how she was at PARC in those days, though we didn't knowĮach other then. With Elisabeth Paté-Cornell, who's head of the new Management ScienceĪnd Engineering department at Stanford, and she was telling In fact, just the other night I spent a couple hours ![]() The people at PARC: people just flowed back and forth along Arastadero The people at the AI lab were tightly intermixed with I had been a visiting scholar at Stanford University in theirĪrtificial Intelligence Lab, starting in 1972 and then again inġ973, when I was a professor at the University of California at Raskin: It was not a formal relationship at any point. Pang: What was your relationship with PARC prior to Holland and there are 600 people who've flown from all over forĪ conference on user interface. Out- there was just a sentence or two, but it was in there! Inįact, my advisor recommended that I not talk about that because I argued that we should be designing machines from the interface They'd built the Altos and other machines, which were built to ![]() The user interface and working from there was completely alien,Īt least in the personal computer industry. The idea of building a whole computer system starting with ![]() It was a totally unknown concept: you just didn't worry about If you said you were a user interface specialist, you wouldn't There wasn't a whole lot known about interactionĭesign at the time it wasn't even a recognized field at that There because I had joined Apple, and it seemed unethical to continue Raskin: - but most of the work I knew about was beingĭone at PARC, but from early 1978 onward I had stayed away from What the state of anything was at any point in history. Raskin: I'd have to go back and review magazines andīooks of the time to really remember. Of the field was at the time- what people would have looked toĪs important exemplars, problems, and where Xerox Can you give me a sense of what the state Interaction at the time the Macintosh project got Pang: I want to begin by asking about the state of human-computer
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